I'm saying we mustn't get violent. That's a very different thing. When I say it's not that bad, I mean to point out that they've not been harmed yet. They're being treated with civility. And that means that they can be recovered with no real scars. Unless the Russians start feeling inclined to scar them. If all we do is engage in negotiations, go for gentle solutions, then they'll be less likely to hurt them.
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I'm saying we mustn't get violent. That's a very different thing. When I say it's not that bad, I mean to point out that they've not been harmed yet. They're being treated with civility. And that means that they can be recovered with no real scars. Unless the Russians start feeling inclined to scar them. If all we do is engage in negotiations, go for gentle solutions, then they'll be less likely to hurt them.