... shut it. [Luci actually has to take a second before responding, only because it takes her a minute to retrace how they got to arguing about this in the first place.]

The second anybody starts making garbage that suggests there's some good-and-bad dichotomy? Somebody else buys into it, and then a mess of people do-- thank you, Christianity. There's no hope for me now. But you-- you get to decide here. Don't let them do it for you, especially with some fuckwit propaganda.