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[adamantlyardent]

There is a cruel comfort in knowing that trying to talk to self-declared artists is, regardless of realm, an exercise in patience quite hard to master. I desperately do not care if one has crafted a pinwheel out of garbage, nor shall I be inclined to call it art, thank you very much.

Dare I even send this thought into this void? Perhaps I'll just be inadvertently drawing more of these sorts, eager to fuel some unconscious need to be offended and fight for their honor; it seems to be the way out on the street, in the magazines, and everywhere else...

There must be truly something to the notion of being "spoiled for choice" -- this world seems the absolute perfect example of it. Do parameters of quality even MATTER anymore when there is just so damn much of anything and no one can seem to agree at all?

Sure, why not. The ink you accidentally dripped onto your shoe is now "art."

Gods help me. Rather, someone else just kindly mark a map for me so I know how to avoid these weird avenues in the future and spare us all.

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[irondad]

Did you mean to post this incredibly popular opinion to your Xanga instead?

( Tony... )

[adamantlyardent]

[s t a r k . . .

after a long delay:] This wouldn't happen to be Tony Stark, would it?

[irondad]

In the flesh.

And just to head off any questions, comments, concerns, or death threats:
1. I'm not SIM.
2. I am, in fact, from a different universe.
3. I'm not hiring for surly henchpeople, and neither will I be honoring previous work contracts SIM made with surly henchpeople. If you happen to be one.
4. I'm sorry that guy was an enormous dick.

Okay, go.

( TONY. )

[adamantlyardent]

I wonder how much of that will prove to be true; I suppose I'll find out whether or not you start stalking my private communications once again.
You'll pardon me for not being immediately convinced, I'm sure.

[batgirl_babs]

In fairness, I'm pretty sure this is what we'd term a 'transitory phase' in general.

And you're on one side of something great: a huge debate about what art is, who is doing it, so on and so on. So, I dunno, maybe take some consolation from that? Your view matters more now than it has on Earth in a couple centuries, at least.

We've just gotten to a point where art is more democratic than it's ever been...it'll all shake itself out in a few decades, probably.

[Cue the wild optimist, really.]

UN: Archon

[thyarchon]

Art is defined as follows: “ the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.”

It’s a similar argument as to whether or not a particular written work is considered literature or poetry, whether a piece of instrumentation is considered music or not.

Thou hath stumbled upon a centuries long philosophical debate amongst scholars.

[irondad]

Don't take this the wrong way, but in the ten or so minute span of time in which we've been vaguely acquainted, I'm pretty sure I don't want to read any of your private communications.

And I'm baffled? Definitely baffled. Did this guy just tap everyone's lines for kicks?

Seems a hefty resource drain.

( And a superb way to cover all bases at once, on the flip side... )

[adamantlyardent]

[OPTIMISM???? in MY chilis??????]

I'm fairly certain any merit my opinion has on anything in this world is almost exclusively due to the fact that I am NOT from this world. No matter how many appear, those of us labeled as imPorts are destined to be valued more as novelties, and any opinions of actual value are secondary.

I could always exploit that to my benefit, of course, but I'm not THAT miserable yet.

[adamantlyardent]

It's already limiting itself in terms of "humans," so it's irritating enough from my perspective.

Gods, do not even get me STARTED on what some people pass for prose or poetry in this realm. Have you heard of "slam poetry"? It's excruciating.

[adamantlyardent]

Whatever snap judgment HE made in his first ten minutes convinced him I was worth tormenting from afar AND in-person on the rare occasion our paths crossed -- and no, I don't know why. Likely because I do not take to bullying very well and it must be ever-so-amusing to taunt someone seemingly lower in esteem and age.

Honestly, it may be a boon for you: The bar could hardly be lower at the starting gate.

[irondad]

...how old are you?

[adamantlyardent]

[a delay.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.......................]

Twenty-five.

[thyarchon]

Thus the joys of a world devoid of anything considered sentient besides humans. Though a more navigable one than the too short doorframes.

I expect that it is more cohesive form of creative expression than the cacophony of free form jazz.

[adamantlyardent]

Only if the performer opts out of including screaming or foot-stomping in their rendition.
I'm not sure if you know of kobolds, but it is not unlike if a kobold knocked a wasp's nest off a branch and the resulting madness also SOMETIMES ended up with a rhyme or three.

[irondad]

Pull the other one.

( just guessing here cuuuuz that took more than a sec there, missy )

[adamantlyardent]

I beg your pardon?

[irondad]

I don't believe you.

[adamantlyardent]

I suppose that's fair, considering how my past automatically has me mistrusting you.

[irondad]

Touché.

[adamantlyardent]

Indeed.
And in any case, if you are similar enough to the previous iteration of yourself as to have some mastery over technology, whether or not I deceived you would be moot, wouldn't it?

[irondad]

I gotta be honest.
A victory like that sounds lame.
Did SIM just have like
Wildly low self-esteem or something?

[batgirl_babs]

But they're still valued, even if secondary. Frankly, given the overall very tiny artistic circles, your opinion is going to have an outsized effect without you even having to DO anything. Other than having it.

You don't need to exploit anything, you just need to say it and have it heard.

[adamantlyardent]

You'll need to seek those answers elsewhere, because not only am I incredibly biased from my few experiences with him, I'm also no expert on him in general. What things I know of him to be true are few, but none of them are very flattering.

[adamantlyardent]

And then wind up with odd-smelling acolytes. I've been down this road -- it is unpleasant and full of madmen.

[irondad]

I'd be happy to hear what you know, regardless.