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[adamantlyardent]

There is a cruel comfort in knowing that trying to talk to self-declared artists is, regardless of realm, an exercise in patience quite hard to master. I desperately do not care if one has crafted a pinwheel out of garbage, nor shall I be inclined to call it art, thank you very much.

Dare I even send this thought into this void? Perhaps I'll just be inadvertently drawing more of these sorts, eager to fuel some unconscious need to be offended and fight for their honor; it seems to be the way out on the street, in the magazines, and everywhere else...

There must be truly something to the notion of being "spoiled for choice" -- this world seems the absolute perfect example of it. Do parameters of quality even MATTER anymore when there is just so damn much of anything and no one can seem to agree at all?

Sure, why not. The ink you accidentally dripped onto your shoe is now "art."

Gods help me. Rather, someone else just kindly mark a map for me so I know how to avoid these weird avenues in the future and spare us all.

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[irondad]

Did you mean to post this incredibly popular opinion to your Xanga instead?

( Tony... )

[adamantlyardent]

[s t a r k . . .

after a long delay:] This wouldn't happen to be Tony Stark, would it?

[irondad]

In the flesh.

And just to head off any questions, comments, concerns, or death threats:
1. I'm not SIM.
2. I am, in fact, from a different universe.
3. I'm not hiring for surly henchpeople, and neither will I be honoring previous work contracts SIM made with surly henchpeople. If you happen to be one.
4. I'm sorry that guy was an enormous dick.

Okay, go.

( TONY. )

[batgirl_babs]

In fairness, I'm pretty sure this is what we'd term a 'transitory phase' in general.

And you're on one side of something great: a huge debate about what art is, who is doing it, so on and so on. So, I dunno, maybe take some consolation from that? Your view matters more now than it has on Earth in a couple centuries, at least.

We've just gotten to a point where art is more democratic than it's ever been...it'll all shake itself out in a few decades, probably.

[Cue the wild optimist, really.]

[adamantlyardent]

[OPTIMISM???? in MY chilis??????]

I'm fairly certain any merit my opinion has on anything in this world is almost exclusively due to the fact that I am NOT from this world. No matter how many appear, those of us labeled as imPorts are destined to be valued more as novelties, and any opinions of actual value are secondary.

I could always exploit that to my benefit, of course, but I'm not THAT miserable yet.

[batgirl_babs]

But they're still valued, even if secondary. Frankly, given the overall very tiny artistic circles, your opinion is going to have an outsized effect without you even having to DO anything. Other than having it.

You don't need to exploit anything, you just need to say it and have it heard.

UN: Archon

[thyarchon]

Art is defined as follows: “ the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.”

It’s a similar argument as to whether or not a particular written work is considered literature or poetry, whether a piece of instrumentation is considered music or not.

Thou hath stumbled upon a centuries long philosophical debate amongst scholars.

[adamantlyardent]

It's already limiting itself in terms of "humans," so it's irritating enough from my perspective.

Gods, do not even get me STARTED on what some people pass for prose or poetry in this realm. Have you heard of "slam poetry"? It's excruciating.

[thyarchon]

Thus the joys of a world devoid of anything considered sentient besides humans. Though a more navigable one than the too short doorframes.

I expect that it is more cohesive form of creative expression than the cacophony of free form jazz.

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[redcosmedic]

You do realize that being hyper-defensive about what's "allowed" to be called art says much more about you than it does about the art, right?

[adamantlyardent]

I weighed the risks, thank you. I can't imagine I'll learn anything new other than outstanding new ways to insult me.

[redcosmedic]

Just so long as you're aware.

I don't really see what the fuss is about, though. If these other types of art are so inferior to yours, why even bother acknowledging them? It's not as though there's a competition for a set number of artists allowed to exist at a given time.

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[iceheart_imperial]

You sound like a woman of strong opinions on the matter. I, too, am concerned with the arts - and their sponsorship, where possible.

Would you be willing to put your thoughts into a written report? Fully compensated, of course.

[adamantlyardent]

For what purpose? A periodical?

[iceheart_imperial]

[She smiles at that text. As if she'd ever be so unambitious.]

Oh, no, as a prospectus. If you perceive a problem with the arts here, I am deeply concerned and wish to aid in correcting it. With your help, I can target sponsorship more effectively. I'd like you to identify the problem, formally, and present suggestions for improvement.

I hope it isn't an insulting amount, but would $5,000 be enough for your time on this matter?

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[looking_sharp]

Have to agree. But I wonder what it takes to be defined substantive writing now.

[Look at him, trying to provoke thoughtful discussion of books.]

[adamantlyardent]

Considering the scope of the Internet, all it seems to take is having a blog with which to state it as such.

[rimuru]

Were you at the Swear-In? You should have seen some of the things they called art.

But to each their own, it's not like they are hurting anyone and if it's something others happen to enjoy, well, that's good too!

[adamantlyardent]

Funny, didn't another round of chaos come at the expense of that art-based swear-in? I've learned my lesson and will be avoiding any of those events in the future.

[monster_san]

Perhaps they'll print out this post and put it in a frame. But in that case, I think you would be fairly entitled to demand royalties on any sale of their 'masterpiece.'

What sort of garbage was the pinwheel made from?

[adamantlyardent]

Gods, don't put that sort of energy out into the world; it'll only draw more weirdos to me.
As for the pinwheel...Old fast food containers, I believe. I glimpsed fragments of labels.

[germhating_hypochondriac]

A pinwheel out of actual garbage? A pinwheel like the toy that kids blow on? Gross! That's gonna get germs everywhere!

If you do get a map, can you send me a copy?

[adamantlyardent]

I admit I will probably not remember to do such a thing, seeing as I don't know you. But I do share some of your concern, though mine is more on the aesthetic than the...biologic?

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[consulinchief]

What does it matter if they call something a little... out of the box art? Who is it hurting?

[adamantlyardent]

Those of us expecting something that isn't so visually appalling when innocently seeking an art gallery.