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[ josh appears to be seated at a bus-stop near what looks like a little church of some sort, and uh. he looks faintly shell-shocked to be honest. he shifts, propping the phone up on the bench, reaching up to tuck loose curls behind his ear. as usual, his hands are neatly bandaged, and after a moment, they begin to move, signing as he speaks. ]

I've never been in a church before. [ a beat. ] I know there are a lot of facets of Christianity, but I have to admit, I found this one a little bit scary. The people there were very.. [ he searches for a word, settles helplessly on: ] angry. I don't.. really think my template would approve much. But maybe he was different in this world, I'm not sure.

[ he glances down at his hands briefly, smoothing at one of the bandages, before glancing shyly back up at the phone. ]

But it made me think about all the other facets, and about all the other faiths people here practice, or don't practice. Has being here made you more or less faithful? And if you have a-- a faith, or a religion, what is it about? Who do you.. worship?

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[dragony]

A difficult question. I don't know if I would use words like faith, or worship, in my own case. It's different for me. But at the same time, I don't know what words I would use, in their place.

I suppose the simplest way to put it would be, the god that protected the dimension I'm from, it doesn't defend any other. Its "mark" in the cosmos is a star absent from this sky. Being here doesn't really change what's true elsewhere, but at the same time, absence means I don't think about it as often as I would, there.

[ it's #Complicated ]

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[ despite himself, he's a little grateful for text. he's much less self-conscious when he can hide behind it. ]

less faith than just a fact of existence??

what kind of god is it? has it always been a star??

[dragony]

[ she's honestly doing barely anything to hide her identity, but her voice would get recognized much faster than her speech. weirdo. ]

Yeah, something like that. Like... this Earth, and a lot of others, they share a lot of their ancient cultures, right? They diverged later in their histories. So in this case, imagine it's an ordinary world, in the ordinary present, but then, oh, Horus shows up. Big, flashy entrance, and very obviously divine. It was something like that. I'm using a more common example, but this one was a god whose people had been forgotten over time, and so too was not well-known.

Unfortunately, that means I don't know too much about it. The source on that civilization was... Well, he tried to end the world. He didn't succeed, but it makes what he did relate a little suspect. Anyway, because of that, I don't really know the history behind it very well. Whether it always was a star or not, I can't say. But it was a protector-deity for humanity, and the world we live in, and the ones connected to it.

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[pummelgranite]

I get worshiped, actually.

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[ OH HEY he knows who this is. kind of. ]

hello! youre persephone right? i saw you at dios party
tbh i still dont really understand how your pantheon works exactly
do you all sing (or throw parties)?

[pummelgranite]

That's me.
It's fine, you're not supposed to know how gods work. That's the point.
And yeah, more or less.

[extremeteenbible]

the astral plane where the gods live is cut off from this world, butt I still have access to my divine magic, so I still worship my deity.

His name is Pam, he's a nature god.



*but

*Pan

[fettering]

[ bless merle, it's impossible to feel disturbed when he's around to chat to. ]

im surprised your autocorrect changed it to pam tbh
theres a pan where im from too! stories about him anyway
and ig hes a kind of nature god

[extremeteenbible]

[ He has a soothing effect like that... When he's not grossing people out talking about charming plants. ]

it's always either Pam or it thinks I'm talking about a frying pan and doesn't want to put a capital P.

I've never been to one of these Christian churches before. did they worship that fat guy in the red suit?

[ Someone might have Jesus and Santa Claus confused. ]

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[littlemissfutility]

I'm sorry they were angry. That's not what it's supposed to be about.

[Not everything he says makes sense to her--different worlds, clearly--but the important stuff is clear. He'd been afraid, and maybe he'd had good reasons. She falls quiet for a moment, her scarred face solemn, a blue scarf thick around her neck. ]

I'm a Christian. I don't know about being more or less faithful. It's more like... [Another pause, her brows income a little closer together. ] That's just a fact. That's where I came from. And I hope it's true, but I don't know. I don't know if I ever will.

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[ a small, wan smile. ] .. No, it's not. [ it was meant to be loving, accepting, giving. but then, he supposes people will be people.

he pauses, then, straightening faintly in surprise. ] It's true. I mean, he was a real person. At least, he was where I'm from. The afterlife is a little.. different, though. Heaven's politics are a lot more complicated than most people realize.

[ more complicated than he knows, even. lucifer doesn't get into it much with him, and he doesn't ask. it's not really his place. ]

.. Still, I'm glad to see that not everyone is like those people.

[pop_of_color]

parents are and raised me catholic, but i don't subscribe to any of that bullshit. used to go to church all the time as a kid when they'd drag me

but now i think it's just a bunch of old or dead dudes telling women what to do and what their purpose should be in life and trying to control the shit out of people

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ive read that catholicism is very strict!! do you think its all religion in general, or christianity as a whole, or just catholicism thats so bad?

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[faithfulson]

[ Luke considered for a long moment how to respond; Josh seemed pretty upset by what it was he saw in that 'church', so he wanted to put how he felt into words properly. ]

Different people throughout the galaxy have their own beliefs, though belief in the Force is universal, more or less. Many people question it, and the Emperor has done his best to erase thousands of years of Jedi history, but largely people know it exists.

I believe what I've been taught about its use and what the Jedi believe. But this place has made me question certain aspects.

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[ behind the safety of faceless text, josh flushes when he realizes he's gotten a response from luke. god, he's so embarrassed about how he'd mooned over him last week--

not that he doesn't still moon over him a little bit, but not like that. thank goodness luke is as oblivious as ever. ]

its kind of amazing to me that basically your whole galaxy believes in one thing, albeit in different ways
here on earth, people dont even believe in the same thing on different streets

what parts?

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[kanyounot]

I can't say I worship the Force, as such. But I certainly commune with it. There are - or were - people back home who created religions around it.

This place hasn't made me more or less - faithful, as you put it, I don't think. But I've definitely - hm, sometimes in my life I've rejected the Force, or wished it would go away. I've been more or less in tune with it, at different points.

I'd say I'm as much in tune with it now as I ever have been, though.

[ Kanan shrugs, and offers a faint smile. ]

It's difficult to explain to people sometimes.

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That seems familiar, a little bit-- sometimes being glad that a higher power was around, sometimes wishing it would go away. I've seen people say the same thing about their gods sometimes.

[ though the force is different from an actual god in some ways, he knows, from watching the movies and from his few talks with luke or others here about it. ]

--Does it.. talk? It doesn't, does it? It doesn't really have a.. consciousness. Right?

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[sanguinespell]

I'm Wiccan. Self-initiated, solitary practice. No covens or whatever.

[She sighs, drumming her fingers on her thigh.]

It...helps, you know? Feels right.

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I don't really know much about Wiccans. I knew a witch or two back home, but it's not the same thing, I know. What is it about, if you don't mind me asking?

[ but then a quick, warm smile. ]

--I think anything that puts you at spiritual peace is a good thing.

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[khajidont]

I'm Catholic - and I had to look around for, like, a really long time before I managed to find a Church around here that's more like the one I went to back home. Sometimes you have to go to more than one to find one that's more in line with, um, what you believe, I guess? Everyone's got a ton of different interpretations of the same thing.

I can send you the address, if you're curious.

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[ he offers a small, slightly shy smile at the offer, nodding and signing a quick thanks. ]

I'd like that. I'm.. interested, I guess. I know a lot about my template's history and about.. heaven and hell. I don't know much about Christianity in general, though.

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[handycapable]

You've never been in a Church before? ... Ever?!

[ Ray's hand is over his heart in surprise, not quite in the classic "pearl-clutching" gesture, but... close. ]

I mean, I guess they can get sort of passionate... uh. [ Even he can feel the sting of this understatement, but it doesn't come naturally to Ray to talk badly about Church, despite the strained relationship he obviously has with it these days. ] Not that I'd really know what goes on in any of those other Churches... or even my own these days, it's honestly been too long for me to count since I've last been to Church. But I was raised Christian and I did used to be a preacher, until... well-- actually, don't worry about that-- uh, my point is just that eventually I realized believing in God and going to Church are only the same thing if you really want 'em to be, which for me was like, this huge epiphany! But--

[ Wow, he's really rambled on this subject, hasn't he... hard not to, though. Ray pauses for an oddly self-conscious few moments before he exhales heavily in a sigh, opting to finish his thought: ]

I dunno... I guess I do still believe that faith is one of the most important things a person can have. I mean faith in something at least, y'know?

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[ despite himself, he smiles a little at the surprise. ]

No, I've never been in a church. My creators didn't think it was necessary, and Lu hates them.

[ lucifer and christians is a complicated subject to get into. ]

I think that having faith in something is important, too, as long as it doesn't.. [ he trails off, hands pausing, hovering as he thinks. at last, slowly: ] As long as it doesn't blind you to other things.. I guess. I think that the people in this church are like that.

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[herrstory]

I do not believe I am qualified to answer considering my duties are less of a religion and more of a job I originally believed in. But I hope you find appropriate answers.

Furthermore, no one struck you in this Church, did they?

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[ he actually looks kind of surprised by the question. ]

Oh.. no. I sat near the back. It was kind of hard to tell everything the speaker was saying-- [ since he was relying on lip-reading. ] --but it mostly kept people from noticing me.