[Audio] UN: Archon

[thyarchon]

[The audio seems to be being recorded from somewhere outside, the flow of traffic somewhere distant.]

I hath a query for you, fellow ImPorts, though one of less pressing concern than the conundrums others hath posed of late.

What is thine view of the arts of divination and prophecy? I hath come to understand that the intertwining of magic and science of mine own world is not the norm upon all of the stars and their reflections we hail from, even here upon this reflection of Earth it seems that they art of different schools entirely.

Thus being said, if any of you have an interest in divinations I would gladly do so for thee. Practicing to better attune to the flow of magics here shalt only benefit mine own mastery.

[A pause, as he considers his next set of questioning.]

Those of a more scholarly mindset amongst our numbers, is there a convocation of us anywhere? I hath found it... vexatious of late to attempt research with the libraries closing at night and wish to discuss theoretical matters with those of similar academic backgrounds.

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[runningstart]

Mine view of the mystick artes is that they are, and remain as such, pure folly.

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[thyarchon]

So thine homeland doth not have the means of manipulating unseen energies, or an understanding of the mathematics involved in such.

Fascinating. What then is the differences between the "mystick artes" of thine world and the sciences?

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[runningstart]

okay i never read enough shakespeare to keep that up

magic is when someone flings around dangerous quantum physics formulas they barely understand and science is what smart people do

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[thyarchon]

I hath never heard of Shakespeare before, I shall have to look them up in between the mathematic formulas and observations of the astronomical.

What of those who do understand the arithmatic of quantum physics and still as thou say 'fling them around'? Doth they need show their work upon paper before thou decide they hath intelligence? I can happily rewrite mine thesis on the nature of shifts in the energies of the world and how they can be manipulated and held in differeing arrays depending upon the nature of said energy and the source of it.

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[wro]

Divination... are you referring to the art of foretelling the future through magic?

[He's familiar with the concept, but not so much the actual applications of it.]

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[thyarchon]

Correct, though there art discussions to be had as to whether a particular art is magic, science, or resides somewhere betwixt the two as most I hath an understanding of do.

[wro]

I'm not certain the two can be so easily separated. After all, they both operate under similar principles, and as far as I know, neither the laws of science nor the laws of magic can be broken.

[thyarchon]

Precisely, though they can be pushed to certain extremes given the proper circumstances and level of dedication.

How doth magic work upon thine world?

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[notmyplacetosay]

I've always figured that poking your nose into what the future holds never ends well. Not for the person asking, anyway.

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[thyarchon]

Fascinating, tis oft seen as no different than the art of predicting the weather amongst those who studied it in mine homeland.

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[notmyplacetosay]

Where I'm from, you're better off adjusting your sails when the storm comes than trying to figure out when the storm's supposed to be coming. If you don't mind the metaphor, anyhow.

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[thyarchon]

Nay, tis an apt one and seemingly more understood than other comparisons to be made.

There art none who watch the skies for the signs of storms during their seasons?

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[khajidont]

[ Dang, that is some speechifying. ]

Sorry, you're kinda... hard for me to understand. Are you asking for help figuring out how magic works here? Or, like, looking for a wizard club?

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[thyarchon]

Nay, I ask what thine opinion on divination is should thou have one.

I seek fellow academics of the sciences, of which magic is upon mine own world and it's reflections.

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[khajidont]

Oh, you want science. You'll find a lot of scientists here. In fact, a close friend of mine happens to be an expert.

But where I'm from, magic and science? Two veeeeery different things. Sometimes they're even considered to be opposites.

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[thyarchon]

Is thine friend an expert in all aspects of science, or only a select field?

Such a thought as magic being the opposite of science is... anathema to the way the world and all of the myriad wonders art studied in my understanding of them. I shall likely need create a guide for mineself in how to explain things for those who doth refuse to consider the aetheric aspects of a situation.

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[justlittle]

[ The part about divination and magic doesn't catch Bean's interest. It's the part about searching for scholars that does. But he knows if he uses audio right off the bat, the guy will hear his child's voice and dismiss him rather than take him seriously.

So, text it is. ]

What kind of theoretical matters?

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[thyarchon]

Primarily mathematics in the relation of the night sky and the position of this planet amongst them though I hath been reading up on other theorums and treatsies of what hath been dubbed 'chemistry' but I hath known as alchemy.

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[justlittle]

I can help you with astronomy. Chemistry is not my area of expertise.

The position of this Earth in space is somewhat different from my own, seeing as I come from approximately 200 years beyond this time point. But I know enough about where things are and where they should be.

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[heliophilic]

Plenty of people call what I do precognition, so I'd say it's not impossible.

[Hell, he's seen enough things and enough powers to know very little isn't possible at this point.]

People not take you seriously back home?

[Is it because you talk like that?]

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[thyarchon]

Precognition? Then thou art a prophet of sorts or is it more akin to knowing the next step in a dance before the rest of the dancers?

[He's dealt with both.]

I hath always been taken seriously upon my home world, it is here that I hath gotten the feeling that those who study divination and other forms of magic art not taken as academics upon all worlds and their reflections.

[heliophilic]

Definitely more the latter. To the point where you've almost stolen my catchphrase. It'd be a shame to have to sue you.

[Something he'd never actually do, nor does he have an actual catchphrase.]

Probably because most people who claim to see the future here are charlatans, pure and simple.

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[bifroster]

Oh, jeeze.

It's hard to know if it's real or not. There aren't a lot of things in this universe written in stone. Not even the things that had been proven to be written in stone countless of times through experiments.

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[thyarchon]

What sort of experiments hath thou done and gained what thou believed to be a law of existence?

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[bifroster]

Well, there is this phrase, "What goes up, must come down". It's a little more complicated than that, but if there is a source of gravity, objects are going to go towards it. On a planet like this one, for example, you can drop something over and over again, because there is enough gravity present to make it do so. The effect might be different where the gravitational force is weaker or stronger, but it will still happen. People have been doing that kind of experiment since ... ever.

So, that's one.

Then there is the law of conservation, where matter cannot be created or destroyed. Everything has to come from something else, even if it's been broken down into its original elemental particles or something like heat and pressure has transformed it. Like ice turning into water and then that becoming water vapor. That one has been studied for a number of decades, but it could still be proven wrong as we encounter more of the universe.