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Jonathan Crane ([personal profile] restingstitchface) wrote in [community profile] maskormenace2015-07-26 06:35 pm

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[There's a certain anonymity in text. A certain kind of power.

Invisibility affords safety and security, yet enables the greatest cruelty. It offers the individual the chance to be sucked into the swirling whirlpool; that spiral pathway to the state of consciousness called the group mind. And at the heart of that mind is fear.

Fear is the first and greatest teacher anyone can have, he knows. How people could begin to understand the world without developing their exploration of fear, he had no idea. A child without fear of their parents is a child without an awareness of danger. Parents insure their children against failure by making them terrified of a lack of success - of being worthless in their eyes. The first lesson begins with parents, yes.

He hadn't known his parents. He'd lived with his Granny, who'd taught him to see fear was everything and nothing. It was power and control. It was empty and meaningless.

Mothering Sunday. Father's Day. Parents' Day. Today being what it is, he will help people see the truth. Should they choose to close their eyes, he'll force them open.]


Fear is the greatest enemy; the father and mother of suffering.

You set aside a holiday in which you convince yourselves you love, respect and admire your parents because you fear that you don't care. They grow old, yet you can't wait for them to die.

You give or receive gifts, but none of you are willing to focus on the motivation behind this day. You buy parental approval to avoid being called a failure. You buy cards because you fear voicing questions. You buy into the dream that keeps you an eternal child because you fear the day that comes when you will eclipse their presence.

The religious amongst you fear the Lord; the Father of all. Some of you revere Mary, the Mother of God.

But you are all terrified, frightened children. Scared of the truth. You will never win the approval you crave. You will one day be alone. You will be told you should never have been born. So you celebrate to forget. Except you forget that without a child, both Father's Day and Mother's Day are meaningless. What about the millions of children who have no father or mother?

Why do you lie to yourselves? Why do you celebrate at all?
cartesianspidertank: PB: Mana Ashida (Human Cute)

oh damn shits getting DEEP

[personal profile] cartesianspidertank 2015-07-28 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)
That is fascinating! Although I don't actually share the human concept of dread!

I think fire on the horizon still ties into the fear of the unknown; is it a forest fire? Is it other humans? I find it interesting that humans are so scared of other humans! And most violence between humans is fear based, I think!

What came first, I wonder? Violence between humans, or fear of other humans??

Compounding on our exploration of the unknown, I think that the fear came first, because unlike animals, every human brain is unique with unique experiences, right?? So every interaction with a strange human being is mysterious and potentially catastrophic!!! Especially when faced with humans from DRASTICALLY different circumstances, from different geographies with different language and superficial differences.
cartesianspidertank: PB: Mana Ashida (human arguing)

[personal profile] cartesianspidertank 2015-07-29 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
It's hard to wholly separate myself from humanity because ultimately I am a creation, and that might be related to why I find humanity so FASCINATING because I'm not sure if there's a more complex system you can really find then the ways humans react on a macroscopic scale! Plus, identifying what exactly defines humanity helps me form a reference point to determine MY OWN sense of self! Whether or not my complexity means I have my own ghost, or perhaps some kind of facsimile of one!!

Something you just said is interesting though - 'those who roll over and let themselves die' what does that mean exactly?


[ search (roll over and die): Give up easily without a fight. To loose all will to continue on. ]

Are you condemning humans who commit suicide? Or is that in reference to humans who succumb to disease??
cartesianspidertank: PB: Mana Ashida (human grumpy)

[personal profile] cartesianspidertank 2015-07-29 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
I don't understand. Why is it 'pathetic' to run or cower from things you fear?? I thought we just established that fears are beneficial and trained or inherited responses to them are healthy!!
Edited 2015-07-29 07:13 (UTC)
cartesianspidertank: PB: Mana Ashida (human arguing)

[personal profile] cartesianspidertank 2015-07-29 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
[ Search (accepting fear): four steps to tap into the power of fear

Wow, this was really hard to wrap your head around without understanding fear as an emotion. 'Say hello' to fear instead of 'pushing it away'??? It was metaphors stacked on top of euphemisms!!

It seems like most of the advice was just about detaching yourself from irrational phobias, or realizing that the fears were insignificant or easily rationalized out of; this seemed more like 'neutralizing' fear, rather than 'accepting' it.
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I think your choice of words is kind of arbitrary and confusing.
cartesianspidertank: PB: Mana Ashida (human grumpy)

[personal profile] cartesianspidertank 2015-07-29 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Because 'accepting' or 'denying' an emotion doesn't make any sense!! You feel the same way regardless, don't you?? I think 'succumbing' to an emotion makes more sense, like if you are angry and you decide to succumb to your anger and yell or hit things!! Or if you are happy and you jump and also yell but in a nice way?? Or you can suppress the emotion!!

What other actions can you take besides succumb or suppress?
Edited 2015-07-29 17:41 (UTC)
cartesianspidertank: PB: Mana Ashida (human arguing)

[personal profile] cartesianspidertank 2015-07-31 07:29 am (UTC)(link)
[ AAAAARGH ]

I'm pretty sure you're 'trolling' me at this point, right??
cartesianspidertank: PB: Mana Ashida (human grumpy)

[personal profile] cartesianspidertank 2015-07-31 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Why are you 'afraid' of being - GAH

[ More weird linguistic constructs!! Tachikoma was going to have to brush up on this stuff if she wanted to continue this conversation.

**Disconnects**
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