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Tᴏɴʏ "ɪʀᴏɴ ᴍᴀɴ" Sᴛᴀʀᴋ ([personal profile] liverletdie) wrote in [community profile] maskormenace2016-06-27 09:41 pm

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Recent events have me thinking.

[ Stark says, taking a sip from his cup, before he focuses back on a camera. It's a lot more HD than your usual import camera -- then again, nothing but the best for Tony Stark. ]

In recent months, we've had people showing up, different times, completely different people, and now there's word of people sticking around. That's different, it's never happened before. [ A pause, a sip. ] But who knows, it could be a fluke, right? Or maybe I don't have complete data. Anyone else heard of anything like that happening?

I mean, that's as an aside. I've... I've seen a lot of people hold themselves responsible -- myself included -- for things that someone who isn't them did. Either a person they become, a person they were and aren't anymore -- or a completely different person.

Would you hold them responsible? After my...unfortunate incident I found people were holding me responsible for things that this -- different version of me had done. Is that a constant? Should people be held accountable for things that they weren't necessarily guilty of? If I'm ported out tomorrow, would the Tony Stark that replaces me be held accountable for anything I did over my time here?

[ Another pause then. His finger drums against the glass. ] Anyone have any thoughts?
catchacold: :| (foggy)

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[personal profile] catchacold 2016-06-28 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
People can't get over how I look. I don't know if I should be held accountable for not being the ugly bastard my other self apparently is.

[There's also someone blaming him for a murder he hasn't committed, but really, the face is what's most cumbersome so far.]
catchacold: :) (snowy)

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[personal profile] catchacold 2016-06-29 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
[Is that supposed to be an insult? Either way, he's not exactly vain or concerned with his appearance, so he smirks.]

Reports differ slightly.

But to get back to your question, it can be a moral dilemma. What if you knew that someone would or could one day become a mass murderer, would it be right to take preemptive measures?
catchacold: :| (ring ring)

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[personal profile] catchacold 2016-07-01 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
It's something that actually happened to me, so I don't know.

But taking it back to hypothetical: You're just talking about timeline ramifications. But you asked before about the morality. Should people be blamed and punished for the things they could theoretically do or as a precaution to keep them from happening?

Juridical system claims to be based on innocent until proven guilty, at least in the US, but anyone in the system knows that's not actually how it works. People hold people accountable based on skin colour, who they're related to, where they grew up and how much money they have. Holding them accountable for what another self did would probably be the norm too, if it was widespread.

Just another way of profiling. Not PC, but most cops I've met would agree that it's a helpful shortcut.
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[personal profile] catchacold 2016-07-03 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Never liked me much.

[He's half-black but mostly white-passing, but adding the ex-corrupt cop turned criminal father on to that didn't make for a good start in life, no.]

Doesn't really look like this community is any better. Either way, if you take it out of the open, the profiling will still happen. Just won't be written down in reports.
catchacold: :| (stormy)

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[personal profile] catchacold 2016-07-04 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
It's often a two-way street. Only problem when you add factors a person can't control, family, nationality or alternate versions, they're reaping what they haven't sown.

[Not quite the thug way of talking, but that just happens sometimes. The thug way is more of a conscious effort.]

So they haven't actually paved that street and, yeah, ain't fair to make them walk it. Most people would agree in words, at least in public, but for thoughts and actions to follow through? Doubt it.
catchacold: :| (flake)

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[personal profile] catchacold 2016-07-05 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
In case someone starts a witch-hunt on people who did things in other timelines or universes?

Wouldn't shock me.
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[personal profile] catchacold 2016-07-06 08:29 am (UTC)(link)
Figure out a way to prevent prejudice from clouding people's judgement and action?

You certainly like big challenges. Good luck with that.
catchacold: :) (puddle)

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[personal profile] catchacold 2016-07-09 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Can't say I have just yet. Begs the question, when you tackle, how often do you succeed in getting them down?
catchacold: :| (flake)

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[personal profile] catchacold 2016-07-10 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
A high success rate doesn't lead to modesty, huh?

[Mockery comes a lot easier than really wrapping his mind around this, but he'll attempt both.]

Other than the bomb injuries, that makes you sound a lot like your planets babysitter. How does that pay?
catchacold: :| (forecast)

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[personal profile] catchacold 2016-07-13 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
They always say money isn't everything. Mainly people that have it say that though, so I'm not sure how much stock to put into that. Maybe your team has other reasons to be ungrateful.
catchacold: :) (so cool)

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[personal profile] catchacold 2016-07-14 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I always thought being likeable is a negligible character trait when you're rich, really good at what you do or both.

Glad you're proving my theory.
catchacold: :) (snowy)

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[personal profile] catchacold 2016-07-17 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Not that much of a challenge when people theorise you're a bastard.
catchacold: :| (ring ring)

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[personal profile] catchacold 2016-07-17 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Miss so much of your sparkling personality?

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