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Do you think that it's possible for people to be inherently bad? Not all the way, necessarily, but like maybe there's a bigger chance of messing up if you come from something bad, or like you've got some kind of latent seed planted deep that could burst someday.

I don't think that's true, if you look at it objectively. It still makes me really nervous sometimes, though, so I wonder if some part of me thinks it's a real possibility. I can't shake it off, so I get frustrated with myself sometimes.

I'm sure other people must feel like that. I'm sorry if you do.

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objectively probably not
if you were to do some sort of properly conducted survey then the results may indicate against it
but there are some matters where the objective studies wont give any real insight to the truth

which is to say
i dont know that it isnt true

[ because it must apply to her. ]

[Rikki's gonna lock this cause this seems like kind of a personal thing.]

What's making you nervous?

Yes, I do.

[boom right to the point.]

People are the way they want to be. The way they choose to be. The catch is, most people make the same choice over and over, every day.

The Super Patriots used to say that once someone slipped into supervillainy, they were always a villain. But they decided I was a supervillain just 'cause I walked away from them, so I'm inclined to discount their 'policy' on principle.

I don't think coming from something bad makes you bad. If anything, you kind of know how bad . . . "bad" is and you can decide for yourself?

I've never believed it's impossible.

Everyone's imagination is populated with fabulous monsters. Everyone casts a shadow. We're all carrying our own little demons on our shoulder. It only hurts to deny this.

Humans are not inherently bad? We're not inherently good, either. Why do you believe otherwise?

I think it's possible to get so wrapped up in feeling that it's a real possibility that you start to believe that it's the only option. That you get almost overwhelmed by those feelings.

But no, I don't think anyone is inherently bad. And if you're even questioning it, then you aren't.

[ Verity feels like she might be having this discussion until the end of time. ]

Taking responsibility and showing regret is what makes a difference, a willing drive to change is what counts. Otherwise I'd like to think Good and Bad are entirely subjective, but sometimes they just are what they are.

I think that we learn certain things. We learn habits from the people around us, and ways of dealing with things. So if we learn that violence is a tool, we turn to violence more easily. Or if the people around us are cruel to others to protect themselves, we think that's all right too. But that's all stuff we've learned...I don't think that there's any real badness in any person. There's just what they learn to value, and what they learn to do to get what they value.

And you've always got a choice, haven't you?

Are you judging yourself based off of the answers acquired here, Laurie?

Sometimes I wonder the same thing. not exact if people are inherently bad but maybe if theyre destined to end up that way. either latent seed or just that it's your destiny.

Nobody is inherently bad or good. It's the choices you make, the situation's you are put in and how you deal with that. Your intentions, how you might move forward or back or another direction entirely as a result.

Inherently, no. Tendencies based on different factors? Yes.

And, good and evil are entirely subjective.

[ once upon a time, there was Loki. Loki the liar and the thief, the bad son, the rebel and eventually, the god of evil. those tendencies still haunt him, and the universe always finds a way of reminding him of a former life's poor decisions. ]

We could debate it- and we think of the gray lines and the spaces between. But it wouldn't matter, would it? It could all be an intricate lie used to define ourselves in those terms. And coincidentally more terrifying than placing ourselves on either side of the dichotomy.

If the box doesn't suit you, break out of it.

laurei

I'm not sure if that is the case. Things happen, which result in people making the wrong choices.

[ Does he believe that entirely? He has to ask himself, resulting in a lump in his throat. ]

All that matters is doing the right thing by others.

I don't think the terms good and bad are at all objective to begin with. We assign these qualities based on our feelings about what may benefit us or our society or what might harm it.

It's natural to look at something that doesn't make sense to you and want to understand it, whether it's to say "That person was simply destined to be this way" or "they never had a chance" or "they're a good person, so of course they did that". It's shorthand, a way to end a conversation which in reality, may have no real conclusion.

Saying someone might be more likely to turn out a certain way because "it's latent" or they weren't raised well, it's not entirely wrong those people might be more at risk to do things that are violent or risky. Though depending on what those factors are, they might be just as likely to hurt themselves or hate themselves instead of acting out on the world. There's no way to be sure with complete certainty how someone will turn out. To narrow down a few things about someone and assume that's why they are who they are you'd have to ignore a lot. Individuals grow and change every day.

[ He's surprised people are saying no. Maybe they haven't seen the worst in people, or maybe they're just too kind. Or too forgiving. ]

yes . some people are bad and cant be anything else .

[ Mason. Wilford. Franco. Their cohorts. The teacher who tried to kill them all. The guards who killed Edgar. ]

those people dont deserve to live .

[ Die or surrender. He'd given them the choice. It was far more than they deserved. ]

Nobody's born bad but some people cross a line they won't ever come back from no matter how hard they try I hope you ain't talking about yourself tho cuz you're not even a little bad

I don't believe it to be true either. There are a great many ways the world stays ordered, but that one... would be unconscionable.

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Is everything all right, Laurie?

[ because fuck texting ]

You're essentially asking nature versus nurture, you know.

I think the circumstances can be stacked against you, and I think it's hard to change some things. But I don't think that means you have to be a bad person.

Come from what kinda bad?

No, I don't think so.

And I've known a lot of people.

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