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Kitty Jones ([personal profile] kittenjones) wrote in [community profile] maskormenace2015-03-28 12:51 pm

text, anonymous WAKE UP SHEEPLE

Why does no one consider that the government are lying to us? There have been some who've talked about it, yeah, but no one really seriously thinks about it. But we know they've got the ability to change memories, haven't they? They can make people forget their lives here, or at least SOMEONE can. So why do we all think they haven't just done that? There's never been a group of people in power who didn't love to see their populace docile and harmless and quiet. They've got every reason to alter our memories and our thoughts so that we're nice and obedient to them.

Why are we swallowing what they tell us? Why aren't we questioning them? Why aren't we challenging them? We've got the power to make them scared, so why aren't we? We're powerful, and we'll fight for what's right if we've got the chance, so why AREN'T we doing that? We've got to organize. We've got to make change.
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[personal profile] glowsferatu 2015-03-28 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
no sorry im still unwilling to blame the government for what lachesis has done
we are the ones who brought her here after all
we have no right to believe its our place to rule this world with everything weve done to it already
and the fact that a government exists is not cause to overthrow it
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[personal profile] glowsferatu 2015-03-28 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
yes as a matter of fact i do
thank you for underlining the difference between us two
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i figured!

[personal profile] glowsferatu 2015-03-28 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
[ as usual? ]

the problem is thats the opposite of what im doing
thinking means considering the consequences of actions we may take
blind reaction to vague suspicions that contradict legitimate facts is a disservice to literally everyone
youre advocating we take up arms over misinformation and complete misunderstanding of the situation
chiding everyone for being docile because we dont play to a tune that satisfies you
you arent rousing a sleeping giant
youre trying to light the fuse on a world-killing bomb
Edited 2015-03-28 19:58 (UTC)
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[personal profile] glowsferatu 2015-03-28 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
and not regularly either
in most circumstances the only time youre likely to encounter any alteration of memories is on export and possibly on an import following
never the first time and only sometimes subsequent times
its her way of preserving paradox space beyond this universe so that events are maintained as they would rather than dooming every timeline to follow

should your memories be altered during your time here its probably an imports fault
either way it isnt really a "whatever" when none of this is something that points the finger where you want it to be
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[personal profile] glowsferatu 2015-03-28 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
i have facts to counter your suspicions
though i suppose i cant be surprised that when youre so desperate to cling to those suspicions you can only respond in ad hominem when a light is cast through the gaping holes in them
which of us isnt thinking exactly
i think thats been firmly established by this point

what exactly are you expecting us to do
there are numerous things in their approach to examine critically
but id rather focus on the truth to determine effective solutions than waste time chasing lies to fuel outrage
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[personal profile] glowsferatu 2015-03-28 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
anonymous as you may be i can assure you that i have been at this far longer than you have
these are things that have been true from the beginning and remain true now
they dont simply become not true because you refuse to believe them
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[personal profile] glowsferatu 2015-03-28 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
and you dont think one follows the other
to dispute a matters factual validity is to cast aspersions on its truth
and the fact is that i am saying true things while you are saying fake things

so what support do your suspicions have
beyond that you abhor governments and being governed
has the government ever once displayed the capability to alter memories
have memories been altered in a way beyond the facts i have outlined that could be attributed to the government
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[personal profile] glowsferatu 2015-03-28 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
you realize these facts predate the current government right
these are things that have proven demonstrably true
i have experienced them and others have also corroborated them
not once has this story been provided by the government because the government knows fuckall regarding the porter operation
you could in fact apply scientific method to it due to its often repeatable nature
even if that repetition isnt entirely dependable
but oh of course that means its only some constructed lie ive been fed and assume strongly enough to perpetuate
clearly im the naive one whos only falling to assumptions that feed my established outlook that i couldnt even think to consider beyond here

also i note you avoided my question
im providing facts and truth to counter your own false assumptions and youve given in response nothing but a vigorous and truly considerate shaking of your head
i would almost wonder if that message wasnt sent to the wrong recipient
every word of it better applies to you
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[personal profile] glowsferatu 2015-03-28 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
i realize my mistake now
ive been attempting to conduct an honest and genuine debate with a legitimate idiot

what in the world gives you any kind of indication that theyre capable of such a thing
much less that theyve already done it
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[personal profile] glowsferatu 2015-03-28 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
point one is a gargantuan if
if it were true then this discussion is a bit pointless when its being announced on a closed government network

lets talk more about the second point it sounds like it has a better potential not to be utter nonsense
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[personal profile] glowsferatu 2015-03-28 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
well nebulous as that itself is its the only thing you have to offer to support your paranoia
if you dont provide something then no one will be inclined to take you seriously
as you might have noticed by now