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[askedtobe]

For those who haven't seen it, this conversation is worth turning your attention to. At the very least, for the sake of speculation.

[ There is a link provided, and were this a voice post, there would be a long pause while you're meant to digest the information and see the obvious, problematic links. ]

There are those here who have no interest in being a hero: this post is not meant for you, as you have already made the perfectly valid choice to do what is in your own personal interest. I see no problem there. However, there are those here who truly, outwardly claim and have made the choice to be heroes. But it's curious that for one in specific, who makes themselves known as intentionally fighting for the good of the people, that they had prior information pertaining to similar gases from their own home that some of us had the joy of experiencing.

Therefore, would it be so off base to say that they might have knowledge as to where these toxins came from?

And since they had this available, why didn't they do something before now? Why did they wait until such a large incident before they were willing to stand up and offer help. Because while we certainly cannot have expectations for heroes to stand up at all times - many of us are only human, after all - retaining pertinent information regarding those who consider themselves 'villains' seems rather hypocritical.

Are we hiding those of us who might cause damage, now? Or are we simply waiting for them to wreak havoc so we can save as many people as possible?

[ ooc; all replies anonymous unless otherwise specified. ]

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[chiroptophobic]

[ Wow, Peter. This is the thanks he gets for being available to talk about Crane when needed. Not that he doesn't absolutely deserve it. Even now, the after effects of the poison is digging its fear into him:

You did this.

You failed them.

You couldn't protect them.

He's as responsible as Crane for this. For the fear, for the bloodshed. ]

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[chiroptophobic]

You think I care about glory hunting?

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[orions_shadow]

hypocrite heroes?

how could it be?!

you act if this is new.

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[askedtobe]

And that right there is the problem. That this is old news.

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[darkpants_warmfeeling]

Thanks for telling people about this. A LOT had to go wrong for that attack to happen. People need to be held accountable.

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[askedtobe]

I figured it was at least worth a mention. Too many things go unnoticed on the network.

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[hands4healing]

Wait, someone knew about this and didn't offer a warning?

[Winry's horrified at the idea.]

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[askedtobe]

Apparently someone knew just enough.

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[infomodder]

[postpones drinks another week just to see if this happens again tbh]

Thank you.

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[askedtobe]

[ weeps into an empty glass ]

For what?

she doesn't like going anon, so she doesn't

[forcewound]

I have a feeling this is dangerously close to the concept of "preemptive action", which never ends well.

I understand that being purely reactive doesn't work so well either, but there has to be a way to find a middle point, right?

bla bla bla communication is key, you know how it goes

you go girl fistpump

[askedtobe]

I'd agree that preemptive action isn't always the right way to go: attacking the good guy who you're cornering because you heard tell they might be trouble.... doesn't end well for anyone.

And yet if there's potential information, it still seems like it might be worthwhile to bring it to light.

But yeah, you went and summarized it well. Etetc communication for everyone.

[slightlyoffchilt]

Are we calling for something of a witch hunt?

[askedtobe]

[ Ohhh, he is mildly suspicious of you right now. ]

No, and it seems as if no one is going to. It's simply providing information that might've otherwise gone missing.

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[thelimitdoesnotexist]

what else is to be expected of humanity.

can't even stop yourselves from destroying each other.

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[askedtobe]

Pretty sure there's a theory that states we do that when the population gets too high.

Not that i'm saying that applies to this case. Think some people just like chaos.

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[darwinatrix]

We did what we could.

I don't advocate punishing someone for what they might have done before coming here. That's no jurisdiction of mine. But knowing that in the interest of preventing something further is different.

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[askedtobe]

I realize you did what you could in the heat of the moment, i'm not condemning that in the slightest. There was nothing wrong with the attempts that were provided to stop the trainwreck.

Merely stating more could have been done beforehand. Especially if it might have gone to early prevention.

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[mightthinkthat]

[The more things change…]

Why wait for havoc when you can stir it up now?

I'm as interested as anyone in finding the truth, but you honestly sound like an article from The Sun, which is never a good thing, if you're unfamiliar.

The urgency lies in finding the culprit, not in questioning whatever 'hero' intelligence failures have cropped up. By all means, take note, but the purpose of the attack was to assert terror and uncertainty and you do our little community no favours by adding more uncertainty, now, do you?

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[askedtobe]

You're comparing me to The Sun. I can't be that bad, i'm not exactly talking about celebrity gossip here.

Of course it lies in finding the culprit, but don't you think the possibility that the hero who had information initially might still have the same information now? That might lead people directly to the person who committed the crime? Or is that still too much speculation.

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[rathercommon]

I think we ought to be giving a shit LESS about who said or didn't say what and giving a shit MORE about the person who actually did it. Do we have the name of who did it yet?

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[restingstitchface]

I would point you to the top this post. Batman's clearly guilty as hell.

[exsithstential]

I, personally, know of a great many weapons from my home universe. Things that could kill without warning, or cause chaos on untold levels. Enough to bring about the fall of entire civilizations.

Are you saying it is my moral obligation to begin listing them? That just because I know about them, it's my civic duty to inform everyone at length? On the off chance a similar weapon is designed in this world?

I'm afraid your stance is entirely unreasonable.

[askedtobe]

Are your weapons from home here?

[shuckit]

[ nah fuck this, fuck all of this, and most of all fuck people telling them to calm down about it. Thomas's voice is young, but there's a hardness and a harshness in it that is past what a 16 should carry. ]

Someone knew about this, and never even did as much as say anything?

Not just all those deaths, but all the people who aren't gonna be able to close their eyes without seeing nightmares is on their heads now.

Hero my ass. They made us an experiment and someone could've stopped it if they weren't busy with their heads stuck up their butts.

[ he mad. He real mad. ]

[askedtobe]

[ oh hay a reasonable reaction ]

Looks like you've got it in one. Someone knew enough about it to at least have said something. Warned people.

But i'm guessing they were trying to take care of it themselves.

[incendere]

Unfortunately, we have no control over who or what type of person the Porter brings in. While I agree that the person in question could have done more to prevent such incidents from occurring, it's also difficult for us to ensure that everyone here will do what you suggest. As a result, in incidents like this, we have no choice but to handle it to the best of our ability once it's presented to us.

[askedtobe]

I'm not disagreeing with that - I think people's attempts to help in the midst of things was nothing short of everything that could've been done given the information at hand.

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[viced]

But what could they do, if they've committed no crime?

I'm not trying to play devil's advocate, but it's a line that we, as imports, have to be careful of. We can watch, but we can't exactly act if they haven't done anything yet.

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[askedtobe]

[ Peter's almost amazed you aren't shouting his ear off (no pun intended!!!), though that might just be his experience with certain politicians that shall remain nameless. ]

Nothing wrong with devil's advocate even if you were taking that route. But I really do understand the rationale; there's nothing legal anyone could've done even if we'd have known about it.

But sharing information regarding dangerous individuals might still be considered useful.