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maskormenace2016-06-27 09:41 pm
liverletdie) wrote in maskormenace2016-06-27 09:41 pm
Entry tags:
- bart allen | kid flash,
- erik lehnsherr | magneto,
- fuu hououji | zephyr,
- wanda maximoff | scarlet witch,
- † aerith gainsborough | the ancient,
- † angela ziegler | mercy,
- † billy kaplan | wiccan,
- † carl grimes | n/a,
- † frederick chilton | chief of staff!!,
- † hermann gottlieb | n/a,
- † james jesse | the trickster,
- † jesse pinkman | diesel,
- † jo harvelle | n/a,
- † karen starr | power girl,
- † kotetsu t. kaburagi | wild tiger,
- † leonard snart | captain cold,
- † maria thorpe | n/a,
- † peter pan | n/a,
- † qubit | n/a,
- † sabriel | abhorsen,
- † the (twelfth) doctor | stop that,
- † tony stark | iron man,
- † yuri petrov | lunatic
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Recent events have me thinking.
[ Stark says, taking a sip from his cup, before he focuses back on a camera. It's a lot more HD than your usual import camera -- then again, nothing but the best for Tony Stark. ]
In recent months, we've had people showing up, different times, completely different people, and now there's word of people sticking around. That's different, it's never happened before. [ A pause, a sip. ] But who knows, it could be a fluke, right? Or maybe I don't have complete data. Anyone else heard of anything like that happening?
I mean, that's as an aside. I've... I've seen a lot of people hold themselves responsible -- myself included -- for things that someone who isn't them did. Either a person they become, a person they were and aren't anymore -- or a completely different person.
Would you hold them responsible? After my...unfortunate incident I found people were holding me responsible for things that this -- different version of me had done. Is that a constant? Should people be held accountable for things that they weren't necessarily guilty of? If I'm ported out tomorrow, would the Tony Stark that replaces me be held accountable for anything I did over my time here?
[ Another pause then. His finger drums against the glass. ] Anyone have any thoughts?
[ Stark says, taking a sip from his cup, before he focuses back on a camera. It's a lot more HD than your usual import camera -- then again, nothing but the best for Tony Stark. ]
In recent months, we've had people showing up, different times, completely different people, and now there's word of people sticking around. That's different, it's never happened before. [ A pause, a sip. ] But who knows, it could be a fluke, right? Or maybe I don't have complete data. Anyone else heard of anything like that happening?
I mean, that's as an aside. I've... I've seen a lot of people hold themselves responsible -- myself included -- for things that someone who isn't them did. Either a person they become, a person they were and aren't anymore -- or a completely different person.
Would you hold them responsible? After my...unfortunate incident I found people were holding me responsible for things that this -- different version of me had done. Is that a constant? Should people be held accountable for things that they weren't necessarily guilty of? If I'm ported out tomorrow, would the Tony Stark that replaces me be held accountable for anything I did over my time here?
[ Another pause then. His finger drums against the glass. ] Anyone have any thoughts?
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A different "you" is still you, one way or another. Where are you meant to draw the line? What's the threshold at which you become no longer yourself? It's absurd.
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Look, I get it. There is a line, if I'd never become Iron Man, I would likely still be me -- but the choices we make can make a huge difference, or the things that happened to us. Someone I knew thought he was an assassin -- because he'd forgotten all the time that he'd undone their brainwashing.
Don't you think forcing him to do time isn't right? I do.
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... I think it's on him to at least try and make it right. If the best way he can do that is by going to jail, fine. But surely there's something he can do that's more productive than that.
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If he wasn't guilting himself into prison, I'd be worried.
But this isn't the way. Hell, I agree with you, that he should be doing something more. He's... a friend. I hate to see him go through this kind of self-imposed guilt.
Then again, the fact that I know it wasn't me when I was replaced is probably one of the reasons why you're so suspicious, isn't it?
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[It's not that much of a stretch to assume it's Barnes he's referring to, since "thought he was brainwashed into being an assassin" narrows the field considerably. And that is somewhat personal, considering two of the people he attacked were Qubit's housemates and friends. But it irritates him more than a bit to hear "I know it wasn't me," after what he'd said back in April. Tony accepted responsibility for his actions then, he can't just take it back now.]
Because if that man wasn't you, I'd very much like to know who he was.
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One I don't really want to see come to fruition.
[ Geeze, Qubit. Let him get over it eventually!! It's been two months. ]
But this is about the situation in general. All of our experiences, although I can only talk about my own.