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[andaway]

[Superman looks honestly just....

Tired. He reaches to rub the bridge of his nose before he speaks, wondering how to even put it into words. Oh, he knows what he wants to say, knows what he wants to do. But it would be unfair to out someone without giving them a chance to work things out in this place, to become a better person.

Except, last time he tried that it ended up with him kidnapped in Crane’s basement.]

If someone from your world appeared here, someone who you knew was capable of really awful things… would you warn people?

Or would you give them a chance to be different in this place?

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[the_caped_crusader]

[Bruce is sitting casually in front of the camera. He sounds stern.]

Your a journalist, aren't you, Kent? Seek the truth. Report it. Minimize harm.

[andaway]

[Clark just... smiles, but his eyes are still just as tired. Just as exhausted of this place and all his coming and goings. He lost Bruce, back home. He got him back, in here, but it wasn't really him.

And now this.]

Hello, Mr Wayne.

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[hooffaceturn]

[SORRY SHE'S FROM A CANON WHERE FORGIVENESS IS THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING SO.....]

If that person shows that they're willing to change for the better, I would give them that chance.

Everyone deserves a second chance. Even if...they were really awful in the past. People can change.

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[andaway]

[His kind of people.]

That was my opinion, as well. And I did just that last time it happened: I stayed quiet because I thought the person deserved a second chance, deserved a chance to try to be better.

It ended up with that person hurting a lot of people.

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[superposition]

[Qubit knew Superman was back. The guy's sort of hard to miss. But... he was not expecting a question like this. It is relevant in so many ways it hurts. Considering who he believes Superman to be, though, it's a question he's already answered to himself a long time ago. Inaction was just as much a decision as action.

Though he's going for "relaxed" here, his voice is even and measured, his expression neutral and on a short leash. Truth is, he's still not certain how to act around Superman. Intuition is telling him then don't act, he wouldn't fall for it anyway, but somehow it seems to happen without him trying.]

Well. That all depends on a number of things. Is this person likely to reoffend? How bad would it be if he does? Does the potential for a better outcome outweigh the risk of a bad one?

[Answers: 1) I don't know yet. 2) Apocalyptic. 3) Maybe, but the cost is unacceptably high if I'm wrong. But there's a fourth question, saturated with emotion, which always seems to overwhelm all his calculations and logic and risk-assessment.]

... Does he deserve it?

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[andaway]

[Just like lack of action is an answer on it’s own, the fact that he still acts to try to at least have some level of politeness when talking to Kal is enough, to him. It means he’s willing to put up with him, no matter his feelings about him (and Kal never did figure out just where all that awkwardness comes from). So Kal will meet him halfway.

He tilts his head at the questions. Not because they don’t make sense- that’s the most logical course of action, really- but all the emotions behind them. Has he stepped into some landmine again?]

He is likely to reoffend, and he has the potential to be… [A sigh.] Really bad if I am not attentive, if I lose him for even a second.

But that’s the thing. Everyone deserves a second chance, don’t they?

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[gearshifting]

[Oh hell, Superman is here. He'd been told but he hadn't seen him or run into him--not likely since Richie wasn't running around being a hero--so getting to see him is definitely enough to make his fanboy heart flutter.

And Superman is asking a really serious question. Something so serious that instead of having his normal reaction at seeing a hero he idolizes, Richie stops and thinks about it. Because it's a situation he's been in before...kind of. Alva has been there and back before now.]

That's a heavy one, man. Sometimes people can change, but I'd want people to know too. I'm going to guess "talking it out first" isn't really the answer.

[Because if Superman is having a problem with someone, they can't just be anyone.]

[andaway]

[He gives Richie a tired grin.] I wish it were, but even if I did talk to him he could still be lying to me. He’s done that before, plenty of times. Talking would just warn him that I’m onto him.

[aggressiveapathy]

Oh my god. Who was it? Deets.

[ totes scrolling through the network rn ]

It's Wayne, isn't it. Gotham is never good.

[andaway]

[That startles a chuckle out of him.]

No, Mr Wayne is a respectable man. [A beat.] For certain meanings of respectable, but he's definitely a good man.

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[helpline]

Depends on the person. Nigh omnicidial space maniac? I'd lean more towards giving them a chance simply because their circumstances here would be radically different from those back home. [ what with the lack of space travel and all, THANKS FOR THAT UNIVERSE. ]

If it's your bog standard Jack the Ripper type maniac...I'm not entirely sure what I'd do.

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[andaway]

[He shakes his head.] It's neither, really. But if I had to pick one it'd probably be more like the first option.

He's not dangerous because he physically hurts people, it's all- [He touches his temples.] Manipulative, you know?

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[crapbearer]

[ Max looks... tired. He's happy that Superman is back, that much is clear. After he takes a moment to consider the question his gaze grows distant, then he frowns as old memories bubble forward. His voice is even when he speaks, but it's tinged with the slightest hint of fury. ]

What if they already had their second chance?

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[andaway]

[He nods, smiling to himself. He knew Max was a pretty intuitive kid.]

That's a good question as well. How many chances do you give someone before you stop...

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[governorkang]

There are some who won't ever change. And, there is the chance that you won't be believed if you do try to warn others.

It's unfortunate that permanent death isn't a guarantee here.

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[andaway]

[Uhm.]

I wouldn't resort to that even if it were. And I wouldn't even- I just want people to be aware, really.

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[deadkord]

[ This is something Ted has thought about more than once. If Max were to show up, what would he do? Honestly, he has no idea. But he doesn't envy the position Clark is in.

But that doesn't mean he's going to act like he's taking this seriously, oh no. Sorry, Supes. ]

Well this is certainly nice and vague. I can't even begin to guess who this could be about!

[andaway]

[He laughs- a little strained, a little tired, but at least it's there.]

If I told who it was it'd beat the purpose of trying to figure out which one is the best course of action, wouldn't it?

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[knifecollecting]

People rarely change. [Sometimes they do, for the worse, and...

She tried to warn people about Lucifer, about Dean, and it didn't help in the end, did it?]

What makes you think this place would change them?

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[andaway]

I always hold onto hope. You never know what may make something... click, for them.

[A shrug.] It's not that I think he would change, it's that I hope he would and I would hate not to give him the chance.

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[pretendtoneedme]

Most important question is, do you have any proof of what you're claiming? Something that'd pass over here? 'Cause if you don't, no matter what you say some people are never gonna believe it.

[He's, unfortunately, seen that before. People tend to cling to their first impressions hard, and sometimes it can be overcome, but not always.]

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[andaway]

I don't, and you've got a point. But it's not as much as convincing people- I know I can't do that on my own and I won't try to.

But at least if I warn them so part of them will be looking for the signs, even if they don't believe me. They will be ready.

[airshow]

Hiya Supes! Tricky question. Me, I'd say it depends on the who, the what, and then when.

[ He can take at least one not so wild guess, but, well, Lex Luthor isn't anywhere near his wheelhouse, and anyway, it's the hypothetical that makes it interesting. ]

Me, I'm a big fan of redemption arcs, but some people just need several dozen pairs of eyes on them for the rest of their lives.

[andaway]

Hi, yourself.

I believe in redemption arcs, but when trying to redeem someone ends up hurting innocent people... Well. There's a line to be drawn somewhere, right?

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[viced]

I tried to give them a second chance, once.

And honestly? It ended up f--screwing me over, and I spent the whole time between arrival and when they acted out worrying about when they would.

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[andaway]

Did they hurt innocent people? When they... screwed you over [Oh, Mitch] did it involve others?

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[bosewicht]

What do you think happens when you warn them?

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[andaway]

People are more aware, more ready. They look for the signs. They aren't completely blindsided.

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[hostage]

[Funny question, considering Jesse is that person to just about everyone in his world.]

No point. They'll just tell everybody you got it all mixed up and they're from the alternate universe where they're a perfect angel.

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[andaway]

Maybe. But I don't- I just want people to be aware, to be ready. I don't want them looking for every mistakes they make, just.

Well. Get ready for the eventuality? So if they think I've got it wrong, that's fine. And maybe I have. I'm fine with that- I wish I'd gotten it wrong.

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[catchacold]

I prefer just taking care of problems.

[But of course, this place is complicated.]

Can be tricky though. Guy I live with here, back where I'm from, he thinks blowing children up at Christmas is good for a laugh. The one here, he's annoying, but harmless. Same dress sense, but that's about it.

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[andaway]

[Clark would recognize Captain Cold, obviously. His actual name, though? Doesn't ring a bell.]

And what did you do about it? Told people?

[acclimatized]

It depends if they've sunk their teeth into anyone. I tried the whole warning someone about a maniac once, but it didn't do a lot of good.

[andaway]

I'm kind of trying to avoid the whole sinking their teeth thing, if possible. I know it'll make it hard for people to believe me but as long as it makes them be slightly more en garde, I'll take it.

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[classification]

People make their own choices and hold their own opinions. It is not your responsibility to warn anyone. Nor is it your business to do so.

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[andaway]

But if I know the kind of man he is and don't warn anyone, any people he hurts later on, every pain he causes on them will be on me.

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[timecapture]

If I knew someone really screwed up was here and could do some serious damage, honestly? I'd warn people. I wouldn't be able to let myself risk someone getting hurt because I didn't say anything.

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[andaway]

That's partly how I see it, as well. I'm just- I don't want to push said person onto doing exactly what I'm warning people about because I didn't give him any chance to do otherwise.

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[aberth]

I think you have to.

[ Lord knows he tried to warn everyone about Kavinsky. ] People can change, yeah. But there's still a baseline that's always going to remain true. You don't know if that'll be good or bad.

And then at least if people know, it's up to them what they do with it.

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[andaway]

[Kal squints, a little bit. He doesn’t really agree with the basic premise (people can change, in his opinion, no matter how late), but he agrees with the conclusion he reaches.]

What if they decide to judge him, taking away the chance for him to become a different person?

[ichoosefight]

I'd kick their butt, but that's just me.

[ THAT'S THE WAY WE DO THINGS, RIGHT SUPES ]

[andaway]

[A very amused snort.]

I'm just waiting for him to give me an excuse to do just that, trust me.

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[rathercommon]

[ It's a hard question. Kitty answers quietly, her voice troubled. ]

I think...it depends on what sort of harm they could do. But...We have got to remember that people disappear from here. Go home and lose their memories and all that. Redemption and forgiveness and all that are lovely, but if it's weighing someone's redemption - which might be temporary, 'cause they might forget - against the lives of the local people - which'll stay lost...It's hard to really favor the former possibility.

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[andaway]

[Clark takes a moment to reply. She's the first one to bring the memory thing up, and that's honestly a very fair point.]

I don't think he'd be hurting people, not... not in a physical way? He's more of a manipulative kind of person. And I don't think he does that kind of thing for the sake of it.

He's just blinded by the need to reach his goal. Which is usually destroying me, no matter how many lives he ruins in the process.

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[earnedmystripes]

I'd warn the authorities, at least
giving people a chance to change is great and all, but no reason not to be careful at the same time

[Not that it always...helps....considering the government wouldn't even look into imPort files to figure out who Lunatic was when he was active.]

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[andaway]

I'm not exactly the government's favorite import, but that's a fair point. At least they would keep an eye on him.

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[boobwindow]

Anything you want to talk about?

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[andaway]

Yes. [He should probably not sound that eager, but alas.]

Can you come over, or should we use the network?

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[whatyoumust]

Only a truly great man knows that he can ask for advice sometimes. As for the question... it depends, doesn't it? But if there's even the smallest opportunity for them to change, I am in favor of second chances.

[And Alberto, having had a WHOLE lot of time to figure it out, finally gets the private filter correct--]

By the way: my name is Alberto Reyes. I never thanked you for speaking to my son, when he was first starting out. [because if Jaime's spilled the beans to Batman, there's no way he hasn't told Superman.] It must be a difficult job, what you all do, so I appreciate the reassurance you gave him.

[andaway]

[Clark blinks, then... smiles at he tilts his head. He wasn't expecting this, of all things to come from his words.]

You give me too much credit, Mr Reyes. Jaime is a great, smart kid who would have figured everything out on his own. He just needed someone willing to listen and I was more than glad to be that person.

You must be really proud of your son.